Introducing FluentCart - 1.3.4 - BIG Update

Artur Abakarov Do you mean "Юкасса" in the Russian zone when referring to "Yookassa payment gateways"?

Eduard Maniatovskii yes, in Russia. Did you manage to find a solution?

Right now Yookassa is available through Woo, but I'm really hoping to start using FluentCart straight away.

Artur Abakarov I have invested in the development of a Robokassa payment gateway. It is currently being developed. I hope to receive the plugin at the end of this month. If you are interested in the Robokassa, then I will share with you the link to the plugin. It will be free. As soon as I have the funds to develop a payment gateway for Yookassa, then I will be ready to hire programmers to develop Yookassa.

Eduard Maniatovskii Wow, I will be very grateful to you! I would love to try Robokassa. I was looking in the direction of Yookassa because of the bank where I work ("Green Bank").

Artur Abakarov Green Bank? What kind of bank is this? Where is he located? I haven't heard of such a thing, and I haven't found anything on the Internet.

Eduard Maniatovskii this is Sber)

Artur Abakarov  OK! ))

Eduard Maniatovskii What a shining example ("Vorbild")! That's fantastic, even though the gateway is of no use to me. Thank you for what you are doing!

D@vid No idea what that means.

William Beem It means that the styling is a mess.

D@vid We left that area open for customers to customize on their own, but this is not applicable to everyone since it is more developer-centric. Therefore, we have added some CSS, and you will utilize it in the next release.

example input

I agree to the <a href="/terms-and-conditions" target="_blank">Terms & Conditions</a>, 
<a href="/privacy-policy" target="_blank">Privacy Policy</a>, and 
<a href="/refund-policy" target="_blank">Refund Policy</a>.  
By placing this order, I confirm that I have read and understood all applicable policies,  
and I consent to the processing of my personal information in accordance with these policies.

example output in the image

Ripon Sarkar 
Hi
I’ve tried quite a bit of HTML and CSS code, but it never really solved the issue of the text or the checkbox disappearing.
Thanks for the information about the upcoming version, I hope it will be released soon. 👍

Ripon Sarkar 👇
Your code, on my site. I’m wondering whether the font size might be causing the issue. On my platform, it’s set to 17px, to accommodate less young users.

D@vid You should try this code after the next release, not now. required css is not present in the current version. I am sorry for the confusion.

Zach T Do you see FC populating the Description in Stripe? I use the payout export for my accounting system. It only has the transaction Description. I opened a ticket on this a couple weeks ago, and based on the release notes, it seems to have added it. I'm not seeing it with today's transactions.

Mike Rads I haven't had a chance to test today, I won't be able to look at this until Friday. The description field doesn't populate with product data be design because of issues with multi-care purchases. I found this out after opening my own ticket.

What was just added should include descriptive data per product in Stripe's meta description fields. (It's on the lower right of the Stripe transaction screen). For a multiple product transaction,. it should loop through each item and add relevant meta data. I am not sure what fields are being populated, I asked for core description items that show up in the item array.

Zach T Thanks, WooCommerce puts the order number in the Description field which is helpful. I might need to change my payout process. I cannot see how to add the metadata to the Stripe export for the payout.

Mike Rads Ever third party payment solution I have set up in the past five years fills out the description field, so I was surprised as well. I typically do individual items, so the explanation for why it's not populated makes sense, but it would be nice if users had an override option.

I think you could solve your issue by exporting your Stripe transactions and sending it over to an LLM (ChatGPT or Claude would be both be able to handle this) and instruct the LLM to format and map the fields so you can import the data into your book-keeping system.

On the other hand, I really hope the native integration with Mercado Pago comes soon 🙏 . Only then will I be able to finally migrate my WooCommerce store to FluentCart, because here in Latin America it's the undisputed leader in payment gateways.

Likewise, it would be great if, after that, the Mercado Pago integration were also extended to Fluent Forms and FluenBooking (so I wouldn't have to rely on WooCommerce anymore).

Erick Laureano Lets make them hear us 🚀

Yulong Peng Noted with thanks

Ripon Sarkar You're welcome.👍

Marc Meese They are not adding modules, but I am working on it. Reach out to me with ideas on any Divi integration.

Nelson Miller Then I don’t understand why they explicitly advertise it using the name Divi, when the plugin basically has no real integration with Divi at all.
I’d already be happy if we at least got shortcodes to layout the shop page a bit differently. As it stands, what’s visually possible right now is far from good…

Marc Meese 
I’m not using Divi. In my case, the update simply broke something that was working. My site has been officially live since yesterday, and I’m in the middle of a promotion. This is really discouraging.

Marc Meese we had an conflict between Divi and FluentCart which was resolved in this version.

D@vid please open a support ticket with the error details. Please check your server error log. Looks like it’s a site specific issues. Please make sure you clear the cache.

Natascha Vantuykom a bundle configurator? Sounds cool but also a bit more niche and complex?

F. C. I will settle with multi-product subscriptions, one or the other

F. C. Massively not niche, customer created bundles outsell those that we put together by more than ten times over. We acheive it in woocommerce with the Advanced Coupon Plugin.

Darren Cowley Alright, that sounds good. Let's hope they'll add that capability to the product bundle feature at some point.

itSo Tek we don’t have any plan for multi vendor features in the core.

Shahjahan Jewel I guess this is a nice way of telling me I wasted my money without directly saying I wasted my money.

itSo Tek Sounds like it....

Sifiso Madwayi Asked the team to check it out.

Sifiso Madwayi Can you please perform quick troubleshoot like

1. Make sure your Paystack payment gateway is enabled (since your ss doesnot show any gateway)

2. if it is turned on, can you please uninstall the Paystack for fluentCart plugin and reinstall. (No worries your existing config will remain intact)

   if none of this works, could you please allow our support team to investigate your issue by opening a support ticket with providing staging (with credentials)/live sites(for checking console).

Karl Gilis the bundle product will solve that. It’s just to manual way that, you have to set all the products in the bundle.

Shahjahan Jewel Not good enough. We have over 150 products. Most of them are grouped in bundles of 3 to 5 products.

But the 150 products together are not a bundle. That's a subscription to all our products. There's a big difference between a bundle and an Access Pass.

This will also not work well when migrating from EDD to FluentCart I think.

I'm curious too see if this will ever work. The promise of FluentCart was good, but until now you still have to deliver. I hope to able to use my Lifetime Licenxe one day...

Karl Gilis We don't have any plans for an all-access pass, like how EDD handles that. That's super inefficient in terms of performance and data integrity.

Shahjahan Jewel Okay. At least EDD works :-)
Can I have my money back?

Shahjahan Jewel So this promise was broken? https://community.wpmanageninja.com/portal/post/all-access-subscription?comment_id=35246

Karl Gilis sure. Please contact support. We have 60 days money back policy.

Note: We had a discussion about the all-access pass in our team meeting, and for most cases, the bundle will be enough. The all access pass is good for the use case but it's worst for the data integrity and additional performance issues and complexity added to the software itself. Until we figure out an optimized solution, we will not add that feature. Our main goal is to keep FluentCart super super fast and efficient. We will never add a feature that compromises this principle.

Milen Grigorov yes, We are working on this.

Shahjahan Jewel Great to hear, thanks for your reply.

Milen Grigorov That would be nice. I have a client overseas and wire transfer works best for us. Lower transaction fee, too.

William Beem Exactly, all my clients are paying me with wire-transfers from their online baking. This is how they prefer. And this is much more budget friendly than Stripe for example. Stripe is 1% overhead on each transaction and sometimes if the bank adds up for the payout might become even more.

Milen Grigorov Subscriptions with wire-transfer are a bit tricky. For that you would need a debit-order, right?

Helmar Rudolph Pro-forma invoice on order, after payment you generate real invoice.

Milen Grigorov Real invoice every month, so that the customer pays via EFT/wire every single time for a subscription unit (month, week, quarter, year)?

Helmar Rudolph In my country this is how they prefer, yes it's a thing. Go figure.

Milen Grigorov Scary. :-D But if it works, it works. Would still be nice if FluentCart got jacked WRT EFTs/wire-transfers, because it's so easy to implement. What would be even better: Some kind of checking mechanism if the funds actually arrived. It could be a simple webhook implemented at account level that told FluentCart that this order has been paid for.

One can wish... :D

Helmar Rudolph Exactly, we've been doing this manually so far. We'll see what the future holds tho :D I agree this is scary to say the least.

Roman Keller Answer: because this feature has not yet been implemented. FluentCart is at v1.3.4. You don't get the kitchen sink with that. Go back to WooCommerce v1.3.4. and see what was available at the time.

That said, yes, it would make perfect sense, and yes, it will come, but the "why" question can only be answered with: either it wasn't important enough or it's not ready yet.

Kambro Moreno there’s currently no way to enter product dimensions or weight, so it isn’t possible yet.

F. C. Thanks for your aswer.

Kambro Moreno hey just wanted to chime in on this. It's true you can't add the specific attributes for each item.

However, as a work around, you can consider this. Create shipping classes for broad weight ranges and charge according to the class it falls into. I know it's not specific enough for every type of product you might have. But you can separate on a preliminary level.

Product dimensions and other attributes for shipping, variations and taxes will be added soon, as it's already been discussed with the development team.

Rasel Siddiqe Thanks for your idea. In fact, we sell books ; the shipping coast must be accorded to the total weight of the books in the basket. I hope the option will come soon.

Nasser-eddine BENAZIZA very important, I'm waiting too

Natascha Vantuykom 
On my website, Link, which was previously working perfectly and allowed users to use the form directly from the checkout page, is no longer functioning.

I contacted Stripe. Their support team was excellent but did not find any anomaly. They advised me to inform the FluentCart team, which I did eight days ago, without any response so far. 👇

https://community.wpmanageninja.com/portal/post/post-1767712785?comment_id=44138

Ripon Sarkar 

Alexander Sugianto I don't agree. Woocommerce definately needs a competitor for both digital AND physical products. However, I do agree that it takes time, and there should be priorities. For me, priorities are correct tax, customizable checkoutfields, so every country can implement their necesary fields and workflow, and stability.

Natascha Vantuykom physical products need inventories, POS on onsite and warehouse. multivendor. priority is key.

Natascha Vantuykom Indeed. Physical is very important too. If FC were to focus heavily on just digital then you’d have lots of upset people here.

Alexander Sugianto A lot of good points here.

Alexander Sugianto Several points are good, but I disagree that the focus should be primarily on digital content, even in the first phase. FluentCart has an unbeatable advantage in the functionality they listed, but it still requires effort and refinement of other functionalities for full-fledged deployment, it can already be used partially, but there are certain showstoppers that block deployment even on larger ecommerce projects. It is necessary that development be continuous for both digital and physical products.

I also disagree. If I wanted a strong digital focus, I'd use EDD, which I have, even including simple physical shipping options. It's awesome for digital only. For me, the big selling point of FluentCart is that it does BOTH. I want FluentCart to do both well, and I hate WooCommerce (for so many reasons), so I need something that truly competes with them, and does it better.

Alexander Sugianto I can't agree with your priorities. There are markets for both digital and physical goods. 70% of WooCommerce sites sell physical goods and 30% sell digital goods. Your plan would ignore the larger market share and limit FluentCart's growth and reputation.

Digital products are high margin products and attract a lot of revenue, but so what? WP Manage Ninja doesn't collect a penny of that revenue. They make their money from selling FluentCart. With such disparity, there are many more sales opportunities to be had for physical product stores.

One of my clients is very interested in ditching WooCommerce for FluentCart. The updates have already knocked off most of the things holding him back. What he needs now is product customization.

For an example, he sells welding caps. People need to choose the size for their head, how long they want the bill (or if they want one), and a couple of other material factors. FluentCart doesn't do that today.

This is not the same as a variant. He has dozens of different designs for the welding caps and those would be variants, but the customization options apply to each of them.

I'm sorry, my friend. You're missing the market that best serves the vendor's growth. As they make more sales and grow, FluentCart becomes better for all of us.

Also, I'm not sure that they have to do one or the other. For all I know, there may be different developers working on enhancements for both physical and digital products.