FluentCommunity 1.1.12 Release 🎉

M. Stevens It's coming. We don't want to spoil everything ☺️

🙏

Shahjahan Jewel I understand that you want to surprise people. But from a customer viewpoint the migration from BuddyBoss and LearnDash is
for many a key element and a starting point to start working with your plugin. Everything that I do manual is a waste of time.

M. Stevens Can you user WP All Import & Export for the time being?

Gregory Storm Is that a question? Or did you do this yourself? I do not think this works. Furthermore it could upset the migration process in the future. A clean install would be better.

M. Stevens Yes, it's a question. I don't use BuddyBoss or LearnDash so I have not migrated those plugins / themes. But I am using WP All Import & Export to migrate an existing site to another and it has enough control and features to work for my needs so maybe it could work for yours. You can move all your users and all their content to whichever fields you want in FluentCommunity.

Anri Maglakelidze BB importer is coming. We don't want to spoil everything ☺️

Liam A McDonald That's harsh. If you want to monetize then we have a few options like you can use WooCommerce (with FluentCRM) / FluentForms / Paymattic (coming soon (free)), or any automation plugin to connect.
Managing payments is hard, and I think integrating with existing solutions is better than built-in payment.

Shahjahan Jewel 

stripe has a prebuilt checkout and a prebuilt subscription management portal.

All that is required of you is to connect the api call for account creation and space visibility.

There’s literally YouTube videos of it being implemented in 5 minutes.

I’m sorry if it sounds harsh. But it’s such a popular payment processor and so easy to integrate into products that I’m surprised it wasn’t integrated on launch.

I don’t have fluentCRM or paymattic. And won’t ever use them. As CRM and payments are already sorted in my business.

Liam A McDonald I totally understand your point. But statements like "software is useless untill these are implemented" is really harsh and do not reflect general feedback. If you are a developer please take a look of the developer docs and it's only few line of code to add someone to a course or a space programmatically: https://github.com/WPManageNinja/fluent-community-docs/

Shahjahan Jewel “software is useless”

Just means I have no use for the software until these can be implemented.

Saying “managing payments is hard” isn’t really true, stripe is a trillion dollar company due to making payments easy to implement online for developers.

the only reason they have that growth and got to the size they are is due to their ease of implementation. That’s why everyone uses them.

Liam A McDonald I have really good understanding with Stripe as we have stripe integration with FluentForms and Paymattic. What I meant, I don't want to build another payment system within FluentCommunity rather I am more interested to integrate with existing solutions.

Shahjahan Jewel heres an amazing pre-made solution you can easily intergrate with in under 5 minutes: https://stripe.com/

at the moment theres no payment systems inside of fluent community.

Liam A McDonald I think you mean "software is useless for ME" (if they don't implement what you want).

I think the founder has been clear, from the beginning, about the route he will take with this plugin.

I hope you can take advantages of FluentCommunity and all the features it offers.

Furthermore, I think this quote is final: "I don't want to build another payment system within FluentCommunity rather I am more interested to integrate with existing solutions."

As of November 14, 1.6 million live websites use Stripe. More than 100 companies process over $1 billion each via Stripe. Its a market leader, and not supporting it, is pretty silly in my opinion.

I'm sure your losing out on alot of customers without a simple (less the 5 minute) stripe integration.

Just because the "founder has been clear", doesn't mean i seen, heard or read that message, or even knew that i was talking to the founder.

all i did was ask for a stripe integration Jose Luis Duron 

Liam A McDonald You can use stripe payment with FluentForms pro (right now) and Paymattic (Free, coming soon).

Liam A McDonald I don't even think you understand what you are asking for. There is a Stripe Payment integration via FluentForms right now, but you are asking for a native integration with the FluentCommunity App?

Why, exactly? Does it not make sense to connect to a payment platform via a form that will collect user information in the first place? Until there is a native integration, this sounds useless to you?

Shahjahan Jewel I don't think it is necessary to respond to this anymore. You have been very clear about it. I'd rather you spend your time answering real questions.

lol

its just a stripe intergration...

I dont have / want / need fluent forms....

The point is, trying to make me implement another plugin / system for something thats a 5 min implementation...

Liam A McDonald are you a developer?

Here you go: https://github.com/WPManageNinja/fluent-community-docs/

Implement it in 5 mins. Good riddance.

Liam A McDonald Tobi Salami Unless you are running FluentCommunity bare where it is your home page and you have nothing else going on your WordPress site, I still don't understand why you want Fluent Community to take payments. What's your use case?

Shahjahan Jewel I agree with Jose Luis Duron that FluentCommunity does not need it's own payment gateway.

As you said, Liam, Stripe has an easy way to implement payments. So just create a new user group or role through core WordPress and change the user's role to the new role on successful Stripe payment.

Another way you can get a more granular Stripe integration, with paid access to your site, is to look at a GamiPress. With GamiPress you can set up multiple levels there and have different access based on amounts paid through Stripe. https://gamipress.com/docs/gamipress-purchases/stripe/

Gregory Storm bingo thats exactly what im doing. its 1 plugin, sitting on its own wordpress server.

im not asking them to make a whole payment gateway, im was just asking for the prebuilt stripe checkouts, and memebrship management, that everyone uses, be easily connected to what an otherwise is an objectively good platform.

but forcing people to use other platforms, to make it useable, is such a detractor. (dont fight me for using the word useable)

its taken a super exciting platform for me, to a mid tier, cause they are trying to push me to use a payment platform ive never heard of, Paymattic, if it was software or a platform that i knew, i wouldnt be so up in arms about it.

Liam A McDonald Paymatic https://paymattic.com/ is made by the same company that made FluentCommunity so I'm guessing that's why they mentioned it.

Please walk me through your exact use case on what you would like to see happen on your site with payments and I'll see what solutions there are. Be specific with each step.

Shahjahan Jewel I think it's time to have a downvote button. So we can downvote harsh comments 🤔

Liam A McDonald What Implementing Stripe Payments in Fluent Community Would Entail

For Fluent Community to natively integrate payments through Stripe, it would require a series of changes to the plugin's architecture and design, including:

Integration of Stripe into the Plugin Core:

• A complete system would need to be implemented to process payments directly using the Stripe API.
• This would include payment forms, authentications, validations, and secure transaction management.

Membership and Access Management:

• Fluent Community would need to dynamically verify the status of memberships to determine which users have access to specific spaces or courses.
• This would require additional logic to connect payments with real-time access control.

User Interface Changes:

• Buttons, forms, and dynamic sections would need to be designed to adapt to the payment and membership status.
• The application would need to hide or display content based on the user’s access status.

Impact on Performance:

• Frequent queries to Stripe to verify memberships could slow down the plugin’s performance, which is currently optimized for speed and efficiency.
• Mechanisms like caching or conditional loading would need to be implemented to minimize this impact.

Ongoing Support and Scalability:

• Maintaining this integration would require frequent updates to adapt to changes in Stripe's API and ensure compatibility with new versions of WordPress.

Sombri Luna everythings already made by stripe...

they have prebuilt checkouts, pre built management of subscriptions.... all you would have to do is chuck in an api call to make the account, put them in the right spaces...

then you could manually add a link to the menu for community members to go to their stripe hosted management dashboard for their subscription....

instead dev wants to keep it in his plugins ecosphere. instead of supporting the second largest payment gateway online...

lets not forget everyone used stripe to purchase fluent community...

hey look stripe even give you the code to intergrate this

all that would be required from fluentcommunity is to build the api call connecting the two systems.

this would make the large percentage of businesses that use stripe happy...

read the doc's its already all done for you.

https://docs.stripe.com/payments/checkout

Liam A McDonald They are not keeping you in their ecosystem because you do not need to use a WP Manage Ninja plugin to accomplish what you want. There are numerous options out there. Including the stripe code you just posted. I asked you to walk me through your exact use case on what you would like to see happen on your site with payments to see if I could help you but instead you seem too focused on pointing out a problem instead of focusing on solving your problem.

Even though you seem to be the only one asking for this, the good news is you know where the link is to Stripe's code. Since you keep saying how easy it is, I think you should code the solution yourself and then sell it as an add-on to anybody else who thinks it will be useful. 💸

Gregory Storm While the requested role is valuable, the form of the request is concerning. We need to avoid giving the impression that we are demanding or devaluing the work of others.

Shahjahan Jewel will there be SureCart integration with FluentForms Pro?

Ender Aysal incoming webhooks can be done with FCRM (pro?)

Pierre Debraux Where is Jack sharing WPFusion updates? I'd like to follow.

Hac Media Where ? I don't know. I didn't see Jack sharing anything. I guess we'll just have to wait 😀

Pierre Debraux you mentioned that there would be an integration soon, where did you see this information from Jack?

Hac Media yes, it's a copy/paste from the post :) Look in "What"s next"...

Pierre Debraux haha not sure how I missed that, thanks!

Mat ‎ if you hide it the points still counting?

Andre Gois Yes. I think so. I will check it later.

Andre Gois Yes. The points are dynamic.

Mat ‎ thanks

Shahjahan Jewel ok thanks

Jose Luis Duron So happy to hear that man <3

Elisa Faria Files/Documents library amazing feature :D

Elisa Faria  this is also what's stopping me from going all in with it too. Hopefully things stay on schedule.

Andre Gois Hopefully within the next quarter.

Shahjahan Jewel ok

Shahjahan Jewel for me that’s the main missing feature. Once it’s there I’ll probably be launching two or more communities, one of which will probably be quite large.

If I'm interpreting this correctly, for my purposes of building an integrated Consumer--Professional community, could I then offer an optional "Professional Profile", then, based on that User Role, the Pro could elaborate within their profile, to be found. (Example, a Chiropractor could share his/her specialty, credentials, schooling, treatments offered, etc). @Jewel, If you haven't yet, check out Alignable.com as an example of highly elaborated profiles in plain language. I'm chasing their model. It's a really cool community that's rivaling LinkedIn, when it comes to actual usefulness (and great vibe).

Barna Buxbaum +1

Stefan Lachmann Did you submit your request?

Jose Luis Duron Now did. ;-) https://community.wpmanageninja.com/fluentcommunity-roadmp/#/idea/420/

Sofia Carvalho Here is the details: https://community.wpmanageninja.com/fluentcommunity-roadmp/#/idea/220/

Shahjahan Jewel do you have plans of at least having a theme where it's fully compatible. I mean some themes may not have a dark mode feature but fluent community does, what happens to such pages?

Shahjahan Jewel oh I see. Thanks !

Tanmay Kapse Topic requirement setting is available on space level.

Sascha Liem we noticed that and we fixed it already in our dev. Version. You can use that feature from the next release

Shahjahan Jewel curious as to know when the next release will be roughly?

Morgan McArthur As he said that will be next week.

Moha Alabri did not see where he said will be next week, anyhoos thanks for mentioning

Johanna Armnius We are working on it and hopefully by January/February.

Shahjahan Jewel cool, thanks a lot for your answer